Practitioner Bulletin no. 57, Sept/Oct 2004

Practitioner fees survey

As you know, under the Code of Practice the Foundation leaves it to individual practitioners to decide how much to charge for consultations. All we require is that the fees charged be ‘reasonable’ and negotiated with the client in advance of the consultation taking place.

Seven years ago we ran a survey to find out what was being charged in the UK, and we would like now to update that information and also find out how much people charge in other countries. We would be very grateful therefore if you could take a few moments to respond to the following questions.

  1. What country do you work in?
  2. How much do you charge for a one-hour consultation at your premises?
  3. How much do you charge for a one-hour home visit?
  4. Do the above charges include a treatment bottle? – if not, how much extra do you charge for one treatment bottle?
  5. How much do you charge for a refill treatment bottle?

You can send your answers by post to the Bach Centre or by email to We will publish the results in a future edition of the Bulletin.

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Your questions answered…

Sometimes my clients feel that their unbalanced states of mind become worse and even more unbalanced when they take their remedies. For example, somebody taking Holly might say that she feels even more hatred, envy, jealousy etc. than she felt to begin with. I have seen the same thing with many different states of mind.

I would appreciate it if you can throw some light onto this issue and explain why it happens from the point of view of the healing process of the remedies. Also, what advice should I give to my clients who are going through this?


The remedies don’t cause reactions and can’t create more of the negative feelings they cure. But what can happen is that hidden, repressed feelings can be stirred up as they are cleansed. Another way of saying this is that people become more aware of the depths of the emotions within them. So somebody taking Impatiens for their impatience may only become aware of how deep their impatience lies once they start taking the remedy. Taking the remedy hasn’t created more impatience, but it has revealed how much was there already.

The principles at work here are that a) anything that happens because of taking the remedies is positive, because they are always and only positive in their effects and b) we always treat what is there now. With this in mind the best approach if somebody feels more hatred after taking Holly is to recommend another dose of Holly. If in addition the person has other feelings, such as a fear that taking the Holly will make things worse still, then add the remedy for that extra emotion, i.e. Mimulus. If for any reason there is no time or opportunity to decide on individual remedies then Rescue™ Remedy is a good stop-gap.

You will find more on the subject of reactions at

Welcome to…

Since the last (July 2004) issue was prepared, 55 new practitioners have joined the register:

  • in Australia, Helen Magodwell, Margaret Morgan and Denise Joy Johnston;
  • in Brazil, Maria Helena Soares Betazza and Maria Aparecida Angeletti;
  • in Chile, Mónica Puelma Croquevielle;
  • in Denmark, Sussie Kristine Volkmann and Bolette Gaia Kohl;
  • in England, Lynne Rourke, Lynne Adams, Nikki Barton, Joanne Richardson, Jeanne Powell, Kathleen Moore and Fiona Rice;
  • in France, Francoise Roche, Charles Baechtold, Dominique Maitre, Monique Henry, Marie-Ange Lebel and Dominique Rubilotta;
  • in Hungary, Agnes Horvath;
  • in Ireland, Edel Daly and Kathy Ryder;
  • in Japan, Yuko Machi, Yasuko Akiya, Sayo Kubo, Hisae Ito, Atsuko Ushijuma, Misako Nomura, Wako Kobayashi, Yayoi Haga, Yayoi Kyogashima, Kaori Yoshihara and Sachiko Wako;
  • in Scotland, Agnes McGowan;
  • in Spain, Enriqueta Sarradell Pascual, Josep Themistanjioglus Alpiste, Amparo Hernandez, Amparo Servian Cardo, Francesca Montel Joué, Amaia Bollar Askasibar, Ana Maria Clavero Elzam, Francisco Javier Salinas Trujillo and Karen Holladay;
  • in Switzerland, Laura Neri;
  • in the U.S.A., Suzette Gore, Fran Anstett, Carol Bennington, Janet Hughes, Ann Kelly-Bunjer, Susan Ritter and Margaret Motheral;
  • in Uruguay, Myrna Silva;
  • and in Wales, Anwen Eluned Bowyer.

There are now 1,529 practitioners on the register.


Remember to tell us if you move
or change any of your contact details (phone, email etc.).

What would you do if…?

A new client, A, tells you during her first consultation that she is having an affair with a married man. As she talks she mentions the name of the man’s wife, B, and a few other personal details. You realise that B is also a client of yours.

A few days later B comes for her regular consultation. She starts off by saying that she still needs Holly because she gets suspicious every time her wonderful husband phones to say he is working late.

Last issue we asked you to write and tell us how you would deal with this situation. Here are some of the replies we received. There will be another challenge next month!

We should always try to remember our commitment to respect the confidentiality of our clients, since our work is based on the development of mutual trust. To break these promises would be very detrimental for everyone.

It would be more helpful for us to analyse our own judgement and to take the necessary remedies to help us stay neutral.

Each human being has his own path to follow and each experience holds an important lesson. It is not up to us to modify, accelerate or alter that path. Our task is to help our clients to learn and to free themselves of their emotional load with the use of the remedies.

– Alexandra Landgraf BFRP, Spain

What isn’t clear is why A is seeing you, and whatever that reason, perhaps guilt, needs discussing and treating, just as you are treating B’s jealousy/suspicion.

But what is clear is that patient confidentiality must be paramount. If you feel your knowledge of both sides may jeopardise your ability to treat the individuals individually, then perhaps both A and B should be helped to find other separate practitioners. You can use a temporary personal circumstance (timing difficulty, family pressure etc.) to help refer on.

Sometimes we all jump to conclusions and need to remind ourselves to treat what we see – not what we think we see or know from outside sources. I personally would find it hard to help a client ‘peel the onion’ if I were privy to information that had not come directly from that client.

– Pat White BFRP, England

I had almost the same situation – the only difference was that I had as clients the married man, his wife, and his lover, who was the wife’s best friend.

My first client was the wife. She sent me both her husband and her friend, unaware of the fact that both of them were cheating on her behind her back.

I do believe that as practitioners we are obliged to respect confidentiality, therefore we are not free to tell any of them all that we know. In order to solve the problem and due to the fact that both the husband and the wife spoke about problems in their marriage, I suggested to each of them that it would be a good idea to go together to a marriage counsellor to find practical solutions to their problems.

In this case B hasn’t spoke about marriage problems, but you can perhaps lead her to an understanding that if she gets suspicious every time her husband phones to say he is working late, that surely means that there is something they need to work on as a couple.

In my case referral to a marriage counsellor solved the problem. The husband stopped the love affair and the wife never found out that he had been unfaithful or that her friend was involved.

We practitioners can’t fix the world and it isn’t our job to tell anybody what is good or bad. We might personally think there is fault here, we can even be angry about it in private (if so we need to take the remedies ourselves) – but the situation is what it is. The fact that we know about it doesn’t gives us the right to intervene, but it does put us in a position to refer on.

– Dalite Wollach BFRP, Israel

I would have a caring and professional approach to clients A and B as usual, but I would pay particular attention to my own ability to deal with this difficult situation.

I could have an inability to understand the husband behaviour, or feel indignant, so I could need Vervain to remain objective, centred and to avoid entering the triangle of rescuer-victim-persecutor. I could feel intolerant of A’s disloyalty, or feel judgmental, so I could need Beech to be tolerant and to see the positive aspects of her behaviour.

Bach remedies could help client B to find a new balance in her couple’s relationships and this could save her marriage – or she could discover her husband’s extramarital affair and decide to divorce. There could be a lots of possibilities, but in each case I would be interested only in her unbalanced states of mind.

As for A, the remedies could help her find a more simple way to give and have love. I could suggest also that she study Dr Bach’s philosophy. He said that if you cultivate one thing, the opposite quality will disappear, and this might help her understand that disloyalty and betrayal cultivate suffering and hate, so happiness and love disappear. I would cultivate her awareness and her balance with the remedies to make it possible for her to choose less complicated relationships.

– Elisabetta Simeone BFRP, Italy

Animal courses

    • Bach Foundation-approved Level 3 Animal Practitioner courses run every year at the Natural Animal Centre in Wales. The course is in three parts: Stage 1, a two day introduction; Stage 2, a 3-day course; and Stage 3, a 4-day course followed by a period of home study and supervised case studies. For more information contact the Natural Animal Centre, Penhill, Trawmawr, Carmarthen, SA33 6ND, Wales: Email or phone 0870 991 3334.


  • CPD Conference. –The Natural Animal Centre’s annual CPD Conference is an opportunity to hear about the latest research on animal behaviour, and meet and share experiences with fellow practitioners. The next Conference is on the 19th and 20th March 2005 and costs £150. Contact the Natural Animal Centre (address above) for more information.


OneFamily Fund

Israeli BFRP Edna Dvir visited the Bach Centre a month or so ago and told us of the work she is doing with the OneFamily Fund.

OneFamily is an Israeli charity set up to provide support to the victims of terror attacks and suicide bombings. As well as financial aid it provides emotional and professional support of all kinds, including the funding of psychological therapy. Through OneFamily Edna has been able to offer Bach consultations to the survivors of attacks and to bereaved families.

It’s easy to get bogged down in the rights and wrongs of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict, and few subjects arouse more passion and righteous indignation. But the one thing that unites all human beings is that they suffer pain and love their children. OneFamily helps orphaned babies, scarred and frightened children, and grieving parents. If you want to know more about their work or find out how you can help you can contact them by emailing or


We want you to use this bulletin to keep in touch with each other. If anything wonderful, funny, interesting or plain typical has happened to you in your work with the remedies, or if there are questions that have been nagging away at you, or you simply want to say hello, please write and tell us.

Send your contribution to the Foundation, marking your letter clearly as being ‘FOR PUBLICATION’.

We can’t promise to print every letter in the bulletin, but even if we don’t use your contribution we always love to hear from you.

I have just started going into a state secondary school to work with teenagers at risk of exclusion. I use homoeopathy and Bach and the children like the freedom to dose themselves when they feel they need some help. They commonly have Rescue™ plus individually selected remedies that they take as they like, usually before difficult lessons or situations.

I am currently paid partly by parents and partly from the social inclusion budget. If anybody knows of any sources of funding to help support this work in schools I would be delighted to hear about it.

– Hannah Chambers BFRP, England

If you know of any sources of funding, let us know and we will pass the information on. – Ed.